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Re: Natural Climate Variation Interferes with Global Warming Theory

Bob Ellis — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:41:22 -0000

Good point, Cosmo. And we might just have...the same natural climate variations going on that have gone on for thousands of years. Wouldn't that be a trip!?

Re: Natural Climate Variation Interferes with Global Warming Theory

Bob Ellis — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:41:10 -0000

No, Dale, you missed the point.

But yeah, and if it weren't for this pesky natural climate change, we could see the REAL damage being done by evil capitalists and their SUVs, couldn't we?

Any possibility that any warming could be ENTIRELY a natural climate cycle, like the kind that have been going on for thousands of years with extremes at both ends of the spectrum far in excess of anything we've seen since the dawn of the Industrial Age?

Any possibility that any warming could be ENTIRELY influenced by that huge star in the middle of our solar system (that is obviously behind the warming happening on Mars, Jupiter and other planets in the solar system--where there are no evil capitalists or SUVs, I might add)?

No, these possibilities are so remote they aren't worth considering. Any warming MUST be because of evil SUVs and power plants. After all, Al Gore says so. And because...and...and...and Al Gore says so.

(Excuse me while I turn my brain back on now)

Re: Natural Climate Variation Interferes with Global Warming Theory

cosmo — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:49:09 -0000

Couldn't we also have a cooling trend masked by a warming/cooling cycle?

Re: Natural Climate Variation Interferes with Global Warming Theory

Dale — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:54:15 -0000

You missed the point. Nobody ever claimed there wasn't natural variation in climate. There's natural variation on top of global warming, how is that so hard to comprehend?

Suppose there's a linear warming trend of .1 degrees per decade, and there's also a sinusoidal variation of 3 degrees over 9 decades, with the 1st, 5th, and 9th decades being at zero, and the 3rd and 7th being at 1.5 and -1.5 respectively.

Then in the third decade you'll 1.7 degrees over but in the 7th decade you'll be 0.8 degrees under, even though you'll be 0.9 degrees over at the end of 9 decades.

This is an oversimplified example, but it shows how it's possible to have a warming trend masked by a warming/cooling cycle.